tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post112233545566917574..comments2023-10-24T10:39:00.843+01:00Comments on Internet Poker Pro: The QuestionBig Dave Dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08582161855630413360noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122601534635906982005-07-29T02:45:00.000+01:002005-07-29T02:45:00.000+01:00Gerg,the post is here:http://internetpokerpro.blog...Gerg,<BR/><BR/>the post is here:<BR/><BR/>http://internetpokerpro.blogspot.com/2004/08/armchair-expert.html<BR/><BR/>whereas the plo forum has a history of frequent disagreement, the Omaha8 one has always been a bit more Ministry of Truth like.<BR/><BR/>gl<BR/><BR/>ddBig Dave Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08582161855630413360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122591244572410872005-07-28T23:54:00.000+01:002005-07-28T23:54:00.000+01:00Winter,I didnt post where I got the 30% $500 thing...Winter,<BR/><BR/>I didnt post where I got the 30% $500 thing from for brevity sake. It may be too high, for sure. The point was is that if there is a reasonable chunky bunch of -EV to overcome, then you dont have to work out the nuances of how that may be overcome, but rather can it be overcome at all. And regardless of how much we put aside for the losing side, I would stand by the fact that it is going to be hard to make that money up in the situation described. This is the advantage of looking at the question from a bigger perspective, than just the "I'm getting 3:1 one." And is analagous to the reductio ad absurdum argument.<BR/><BR/>What I would say is that if the thinking behind that hand was different, then it may be ok to play it that way. For example if the hero says, well I dont like it but...and then the bets are quite small then he may be justifed in going to the river.<BR/><BR/>I didn't say that my intelligence was being insulted on the Omaha8 forum. I said I have had some pointless experiences there. I have been playing plo8b for quite a while now, and have posted there about the game for a similar length of time.<BR/><BR/>As a whole, I don't mind being wrong. Regular visitors to this blog will have seen me often admit to making mistakes and being plain dumb. The discussion here is very robust and completely free of the kind of processes that forums like 2+2 fall victim to.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I'm not a pro, nor do I ever pretned to be. It's just a name for the site. But I have been a winning player for a very long time, but just now, I am going through a disasterously bad patch. If you get to play long enough, you will see them too.<BR/><BR/>gl<BR/><BR/>ddBig Dave Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08582161855630413360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122589046453609202005-07-28T23:17:00.000+01:002005-07-28T23:17:00.000+01:00Shit, Greg, you gave up so easy... I still stand b...Shit, Greg, you gave up so easy... I still stand by my analysis (and that of others) in the thread you linked to, BDD. I can't make much sense of the analysis you've posted here b/c (1) it's handwaving (you decide the hero gets 1/4'd "roughly 30% of the time", where did that come from) and (2) you don't seem to account for the possibility that the hero will end up with 3/4 of the pot some of the time, as happened in that example. (Without any raising action on that flop, it is definitely not necessarily the case that hero should be planning *only* on the prospect of the short stack will be carved up.)<BR/><BR/>Also, I'm sorry to hear that your intelligence is again being insulted in the PLO8/LO8 vs/ PLO8/PLO debate. It must be difficult to be the only soul to understand these games and their inter-relationships.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I wish you wouldn't keep your secret high-stakes internet poker pro knowledge to yourself rather than risk correcting such obvious mistakes of myself and other high-stakes mortals... after all, your yearly results (which are certainly far superior to those of any other 2+2 high-stakes mistake-makers such as myself) bear the mark of a fantastically gifted player.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122587714363596082005-07-28T22:55:00.000+01:002005-07-28T22:55:00.000+01:00Incredibly, I'm hyaving another pointless experien...Incredibly, I'm hyaving another pointless experience on that forum now. Deja vu all over again.<BR/><BR/>gl<BR/><BR/>ddBig Dave Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08582161855630413360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122574123445510232005-07-28T19:08:00.000+01:002005-07-28T19:08:00.000+01:00Thanks jack and gergey.I guess there are a couple ...Thanks jack and gergey.<BR/><BR/>I guess there are a couple of reasons not to post it on 2+2. Obviously I want the traffic. Also, I have had some fairly pointless experiences on the Omaha 8b forum talking about plo8b, which I have alreaqdy talked about in the blog. Lastly, it struck me as such an obvious mistake in thinking by several people who are playing high in terms of plo8b, that I didn't want to rock the boat too much :)<BR/><BR/>gl<BR/><BR/>ddBig Dave Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08582161855630413360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309892.post-1122422555622389272005-07-27T01:02:00.000+01:002005-07-27T01:02:00.000+01:00Saw that 2+2 post myself and thought his fundament...Saw that 2+2 post myself and thought his fundamental O8 strategy is flawed...<BR/><BR/>Your analysis hit the nails on their heads.<BR/><BR/>bare A2 can be counterfeited.<BR/><BR/>Even if it isn't he can get quartered.<BR/><BR/>He needs a way to scoop...<BR/><BR/>I would fold it on that flop with a bet and call in front.<BR/><BR/>He's only posted the blind, wait for a better situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com