Saturday, November 11, 2006

It's Great When You're Straight

This post was going to be a review of Rolf's new book, but I couldn't be bothered. Over the last month or so, since the bubble burst, the NL since has taken a battering. The crypto network went pop, and Betfair have made the inexplicable decision to borrow PokerChamps software, which not only doesn't have hand histories, but shuts the door on all that PT shenanigans. Maybe it was deliberate.

I have been putting in the hours playing a fair chunk of limit hilo, having my usual rush followed by my usual crunch, although this time I have managed to stop playing before I have started losing money in the game. Anyway, envious of MBK - in a good way I might add - I thought I would give PLO a spin again. (Short interlude, I think its telling of all the poker bloggers etc that Ben has bounced back from a crushing setback. Ok, Gryko too but that was awhile ago. Cue Neitzche quotes.)

Here are some hands I'm proud of:

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
8 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: $744.80
UTG+1: $1000
MP1: $1022
MP2: $1104
CO: $1669
Hero: $957
SB: $580.50
BB: $1865.30


Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with :as :8d :ah :5c
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $45, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $80, 3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.


Flop: :kd :2h :jh ($345, 4 players)
MP1 bets $342, 2 folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $342 returned to MP1.


Results:
Final pot: $345

---

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
3 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
Button: $714.20
Hero: $1509.80
BB: $1689
(Important note..this Foe is very, very aggro)


Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with :4c :5s :8c :9h
Button raises to $35, Hero calls, BB folds.


Flop: :8d :as :5c ($80, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $79, Hero calls.


Turn: :7c ($238, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.


River: :2c ($238, 2 players)
Hero bets $100, Button raises to $310, Hero calls.


Results:
Final pot: $858
---

I just noticed Pete had an interesting post on the ennui descending on the current spate of internet players. My fists got tired thumping the air with joy and my feet sore dancing with glee at the demise of these D&D playing mother-fuckers.

(Please refer to the last post and its comments if this outburst seems a little odd.)

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

First hand:
Why raise at all with junk aces? I dont quite get it, but I have a feeling that we may learn something if you care to explain.

Second is too tough for me to tackle, shorthanded and player dependant make fine excuses.

Aksu

Big Dave D said...

Aksu,

Well first off, a call would be fine here. Obviously I am too deep to full pot reraise and not give all these players, some of which were good, splendid implied odds for my obvious hand. By mini raising, I get the chance to stack someone having a brain flip with say good kings.

The second hand was very interesting. This guy was maximum aggro and I "knew" that he would have value bet a flush draw on the turn, as so many PLOers do. SO the river bet was twofold. It was a value bet. But also I absolutely didnt mind if he reraised as I felt sure he would be bluffing if he did so. Thin but confident.

gl

dd

Gelford said...

By all means, please do review Rolfs book :-)

Anonymous said...

Hi Dave,

Like he said, I wouldn't raise junky aces unless very short perhaps, as you just don't have as many ways to hit a good flop and mostly will just have 1 pair in a multiway pot where you can't bet most flops and have to c/f. In your second hand, my requirements for continuing to play with bottom 2, in the rare times I do, is that I have something else to go with it, the same as if I had middle or bottom set and weren't sure if I were up against top set (when I am sure I pass for sure). This especially goes for flops with an A as players are so indiscriminate in PLO in playing trashy suited A hands and high card hands with any A. An exception I would make with bottom 2 is where there is a different uncoordinated high card there than an A, and I am against someone strongly marked with aces and who will overplay them. So in summary, I would have let it go on the flop. Also as a further note, you mention villain was aggro. In that case, unless I were getting a lot more odds on my call pre with other players in, I don't like to take junk up against players who play junk. I save that for running down weak tights whose main flaw is overplaying AA :).

Regarding your CP articles in the euro edition, I loved your closing line in your penultimate article, "And even if the antes are imaginary, you can still spend them.". That was so funny but probably lost on most as they probably didn't read Sklansky's post in the 2+2 HSNL forum about "your invisible ante".

In your latest article you tout hi/lo no qualifier declare games. With the net driving the B&M scene as you allude to, I can't see declare games coming back into popularity, and even if players online wanted that, the already slow nature of games with more cards and players having to interact with their hands in draw games, means that the sites probably wouldn't want to slow it down further. Also even in B&M play, another factor is that declare games can be more ameniable to collusion.

I myself was glad to see stars add triple draw and 5 card draw games, but think as I noted in a 2+2 post that they screwed up royally by adding nl options there. Limit 2-7 and pl 5cd are what have always run best and will last. Nl formats, unless in 2-7 with just one draw, never will go long, and just end up sapping any momentum the other formats could generate. I would love to see higher stakes PL 5CD games go, as even most americans either forgot how to play, or in the case of the young no limit kids, never learned, just like they never learned 7CS. There is a lot of game theoretically derived expert strategy there that can give a good player a solid edge, assuming other players are too tight or too loose.

BTW, now that Rolf has gotten your foot in the print publishing door so to speak, I expect you to parlay same into a column in a national newspaper in the UK, and fill the shoes of the great popularizer of poker, Mr. Spanier, whose writing I always enjoyed.

Anonymous said...

Note: forgot to sign post above. Obv by BluffTHIS!

Big Dave D said...

Gelford,

I have wrote it...I just can't be bothered to type it in :( Soon, I guess.

gl

dd

Big Dave D said...

Bluff,

When I said proud, I guess I should have said "proud of improved thinking". In the AA case I would have previously either reraised the pot or just flat called. In the short handed case I would have probably made a right hash of the river. But all your comments are spot on.

The CPR article would have been better if they somehow hadn't screwed up the title. It was supposed to be called "Imaginary Friends".

I appreciate the Spanier comment. I loved his stuff when "growing up" and have at some time bought and read all his books. But I'm not in his class, and I find the writing just too damn hard. And they just want tourney faces it seems.

gl

dd

Anonymous said...

Dave,

Do try to be a more diligent blog administrator and delete the fckng spam above more quicly :).

Bluff

mftpg said...

Hi, Just starting out with my blog and have linked to yours as you were on my reading list! - little unsure if this is the correct protocol for exchanging links but v much appreciate a link back! I am at

http://plan3tgongpoker.blogspot.com

Cheers, Mark

joe said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Anonymous said...

Dave
I've commented a few times on your blog in the past. I'm currently embroiled in an AAxx hand in an online forum. I'd appreciate your input.
Is it possible to mail you somewhere ?
Thanks
Kevin

free bet said...

if you want to have some free bets... Yes FREE! bets.. i suggest you visit this website : free bet and you will enjoy the freebies and bonuses as well.. check it out and you wont regret it...

lipitor said...

companies marketing mineral makeups and also get the best bargains in mineral makeup you can imagine,
find aout how to consolidate your students loans or just how to lower your actual rates.,
looking for breast enlargements? in Rochester,
homeopathy for eczema learn about it.,
Allergies, information about lipitor,
save big with great bargains in mineral makeup,

change edition interviewing motivational people preparing second
,

interviewing motivational people preparing second time
,

interviewing people motivational preparing for a second time
,

black mold exposure
,

black mold exposure symptoms
,

black mold symptoms of exposure
,

free job interview questions
,

free job interview answers
,

interview answers to get a job
,

lookfor hair styles for fine thin hair
,

search hair styles for fine thin hair
,

hair styles for fine thin hair
,

beach resort in the philippines
,

great beach resort in the philippines
,

luxury beach resort in the philippines
,
iron garden gates, here,
iron garden gates,
wrought iron garden gates
, here
,
wrought iron garden gates
,
You: The Owner's Manual: An Insider's Guide to the Body That Will Make You Healthier and Younger
,
eat eating mindless more than think we we why
,


texturizer,
texturizers here,
black hair texturizer,
find aout how care curly hair,
find about how to care curly hair,
care curly hair,
lipitor rash,
lipitor reactions,
new house ventura california,
the house new houston tx,
new house washington dc,
new house pa philadelphia,
san antonio tx house new,
house new pa philadelphia,
new house washington dc,
new house ventura california,
the house new houston tx,
house new san antonio tx,
the house new houston tx, that you are looking for,
new house ventura california, you need to buy,
new house washington dc,
house new pa philadelphia,
new house san antonio tx,

hair surgery transplant
,

air filter allergy
,

refurbished dell laptop computers
,

hair surgery transplant
,

air filter allergy
,

refurbished dell laptop computers
,

hair surgery transplant
,

air filter allergy
,

refurbished dell laptop computers
,

chocolate esophagus heartburn study
,

chocolate esophagus heartburn study
be informed,

digestion healing healthy heartburn natural preventing way
,

digestion healing healthy heartburn natural preventing way
,
sew skirts, 16simple styles you can make!,
sew what skirts 16 simple styles you,
rebates and discounts on sunsetter awnings,
sunsetter awnings discounts and rebates,
discount on sunsetter awnings


truck and bus tires 12r 22.5, get the best price,
tires truck and bus 12r 22.5 best price,
tires truck bus tires12r 22.5 best price,
plush car seat strap covers,
car seat strap covers,plush,
car seat strap, plush covers,
oscoda voip phone systems, the best!,
oscoda voip the phone system,
oscoda voip phone systems,
exterior iron gates,
oriental wrought iron gates,
powder coated iron garden fencing,

iron garden gates said...

wrought iron garden gates,
your nest iron garden gates, here,

Football Betting said...

Online football betting guide are available for gambling picks. Bet on sports, and receive free bets and bonuses

Online Betting said...

Online Betting offers bookmakers, free bets, casino bonus, plus all the gambling tools required.

Sports Betting said...

Sports betting online gambling tools to fit your needs. Join the Online sports betting and become part of our stunning multi-player sports betting, as well as gain claim our legendary complimentary bonuses, which include free gifts, trips, and sweepstakes.

Online Gambling said...

Online gambling gives you a world of fun and free online games, including the hottest poker on the Internet and the loosest Slots around, all within a brand new design that virtually constitutes the definition of player-friendly.

Mark said...

Sites worth checking out: Play Online Poker Casino Games Bonus Free Bets
Casino Games Casino Bonus
Play Bingo Internet Bingo Games
Play Poker Games Poker Bonus
Sportsbook Online Sports Betting
Bet365 Sportsbook Online Free £200 Bet Bonus Code

Anonymous said...

Great opportu ignore the fact that for poker start capital. Sign-in two or five bankrolls and play real cash online tournament game.
free education Poker and deposit possible way to get the bonus for me an my cat.
Very simply register process and free poker bonus go there away from this blue poker site. World Series of Poker tour WSOP 2009 Final Table free 50 dollars Phil Hellmuth.
That's why you schould take one more start up sponsorship big big sponsor up to 50 dollars.
Gift for your family are small poker bankroll.

Anonymous said...

free signup poker bankrolls
free poker sponsorship

Dave said...

I think you played it pretty well.

Big Dave D said...

Tx Dave. I did too :)

dd