I've noticed a strange phenomenon on the Stars 5-10 game. This is that players who are otherwise moderate to tight preflop, simply cannot play from the flop onwards.
This is doubly strange as in a game like limit holdem, preflop looseness can and should be a huge predictor of playing ability and player profitability. Here in the mysterious world of PLO, we can have a player who is playing 50% of his hands preflop, but is a fine player and making profit, yet on the other hand have a guy playing less than 30% of his hands, leaking money like a sieve and playing quite poorly.
Here's some examples:
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $10 BB (8 handed)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG+1 (Unlucky) ($852)
MP2 (Foolish) ($1696)
1 fold, UTG+1 (Unlucky) calls $10, MP1 calls $10, MP2 (Foolish) raises to $55, 1 fold, Button calls $55, 2 folds, UTG+1 (Unlucky) calls $45, MP1 calls $45.
Flop: ($235) Kc, 8s, 5s (4 players)
Unlucky checks, MP1 checks, Foolish bets $232, Button folds, Unlucky raises to $797, MP1 folds, Foolish calls $565.
Turn: ($1829) 5d (2 players)
River: ($1829) 6h (2 players)
Final Pot: $1829
Main Pot: $1829, between Unlucky and Foolish. > Pot won by Foolish ($1829).
Foolish has Ad Ac Kd Tc
Unlucky has Jc As Js 8d
Outcome: Foolish wins $1829.
Now no matter how you cut it up and slice it, this was a bad flop call. Sure people make plays on you in this game, but at very best it was EV neutral and at worse a losing call in the long run. This player has a serious AA problem.
This one was even worse:
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $10 BB (6 handed)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Ad, 2s, 2d, 3c.
1 fold, MP calls $10, CO raises to $30, 1 fold, Hero calls $25, BB calls $20, MP folds.
Flop: ($100) 4c, 9h, 2c (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $50, Hero raises to $230, BB calls $170 (All-In), CO calls $180.
Turn: ($730) 7c (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $570, CO calls $423.25 (All-In).
River: ($1723.25) 6d (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $1723.25
Main Pot: $610, between CO, Hero and BB.
Pot 2: $966.50, between CO and Hero.
Pot won by CO ($966.50)
CO has Js Jc Ts Kc
BB has Qc Ac Jh 6s (flush, ace high).
Outcome: CO wins $966.50. BB wins $610. Hero wins $146.75.
The CO thought a hell of a long time before making that call. This let me know that he didn't have that great a hand. It also let him know that I was going to bet the turn regardless, which to some extent the stack sizes predicated anyway.
He's made a "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" call here. Either I've got trips, in which case he is not getting the right price for his hand, especially as the other player has cold called...meaning surely some of his outs are OUT. Or, because I am that kind of player, I have the nut flush draw, in which case he is gambling his whole stack on JJ being good.
In the short term these kinds of players may do well, as they catch what they probably see as bluffs with their isolated one pair kind of hands. But these bluffs are often high % draws or even the nuts and over time this "I raised before the flop so I'm committed" will only commit them ultimately to the rail.